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Doctors Are IN! - April

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The Doctors Are In is a free Q&A provided monthly by Dr. Michelle Gamble. She is now known to our group as a wealth of knowledge and compassion. I learned quite a bit during the April session. The Doctors Are In also has other providers answering your questions—some of whom are new to me. For example, Dr. Michelle Perro was on last Thursday. Here is her LinkedIn. She is quite impressive. See below.





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Nearly four decades as a pediatrician, 20 years as an integrative medical physician, and co-author of , "What's Making our Children Sick? How Industrial Food is Causing an Epidemic of Chronic Disease and What Parents (and Doctors) Can Do About It". It has been a journey educating the public and health practitioners alike, nationally and internationally regarding the health effects of environmental toxicants on children's health. Co-Founder and Executive Director of www.gmoscience.org: A science based website dedicated to the effects of GMOs and their associated pesticides with a lens on health. Founder of drmichelleperro.com: A weekly interactive program for parents with discussions on holistic health.


Here is a link to the YouTube video from the April session.


Here is the butchered transcript.


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alrighty everyone welcome welcome to another session of the doctors are in we

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look forward to being able to serve you to the best of our ability remember as

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we had in the beginning when you entered into this wonderful Sanctuary with us

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that we are not diagnosing treating curing anything we are just simply having a wonderful conversation

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so that you can be aware of different educational resources that are out there different things to consider as you

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embark on the continuation of your personal health and healing Journey this

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is brought to you by it takes the village Ministry and we do this in collaboration with health Revival

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partners and sopa healing enrichment I have with us today the wonderful and

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magnificent Dr Thomas Lewis yay health B Partners never cooperate Dr

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Le you said you said in cooperation with healthier B Partners we don't

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cooperate you don't cooperate not at all no just some ownery old

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guys anything y I'm a couple of questions

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let's do it and we always start with the questions that are from the people that are here live with us in person and then

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we're going to move on to to the questions that were sent in via email

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all righty so our first question that I see here is consider a situation where an adult individual has chronic Epstein

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bar infection and that person is also anemic strategy for that person to take

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some form of iron to correct the anemia without the iron stimulating the replication of the Epstein bar virus all

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righty I'm going to throw that to you first Dr Lewis oh what was the question

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just kidding um you know first of

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all everybody has epine bar and it it always always becomes a question of

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whether it's reactive or not that's where the white blood cells come come in but you know I think I think you can

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treat Epstein bar with some simple things you know I think it be very clear

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that Epstein bar has been in a turbo mode if we use the same um adjective as

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used in Turbo cancer since since SARS K2 and I've done a lot of testing with um

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the spike antibody and everybody has some and people are getting more from shedding there's no question about it

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I've documented that well so that that makes EP bar come alive and and what

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we're doing with epine bar generally is a baseline of icton hydroxy chloroquin a

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Baseline line of that twice a day atin twice a day hydroxy chloroquin the

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hydroxy chloroquin they're both scripts it's 200 um mic 200 milligrams yeah

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twice a day and then the iamin is kind of tied to weight so a rule of thumb is

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if you're around 150 you're taking 12 milligrams twice a day and then you do the Brownstein protocol which is four

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days of a month of highd dose vitamin A cd iodine with some selenium and then

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you do our um immunog glob om Mega igg2000 and that's worked very well but

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I would suggest if you look at um my blog on healthy Revival Partners I published something from an Iranian

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study that Dr McCulla made available to me that high do spirulina is having an

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impact on in hospitalization death so it's a really good detoxing agent and

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high dose means sort of like two tablespoons uh a few times a day for a

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while and that was just a 7-Day study it worked for well so but did I hear

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something about gut we've always got a straighten out gut and I I you know I defer to to Dr gamble on that because I

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learned recently and I thought I had this breakthrough that no one understood

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that rectal probotics are the way to go and then she just chided me and

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said uh uh uh uh uh num skull we've been doing that for 20 30 40 years and so it

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it's really I've got a case study now where it's the strongest case study ever and now I'm having my both my daughters

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go on probiotics depositories and then uh rectal enemas I don't want to get way

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into that but if you want to you know your your gut is an open pipe it's

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literally outside of your body you know if you want we look at it that way and to get things in the colon where it

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really matters you have to go through the very strong acid in the gut so why AR we go on rectly more often and I

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think that's a under appreci way to deliver and it's a trillion dollar industry and a lot of it is ineffectual

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if it's taken orally but anyway that's the epscene barbet and but the gut's the

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most important thing when you're anemic I don't give a darn about iron

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it's a gut absorption related issue and we have to fix the Integrity of the gut

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I've seen it over and over again and there's even in the literature Believe It or Not scarce but showing the

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relationship between gut function and absorption of specific minerals and iron

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was one of the one that I highlighted in my book uh the um you know Health Freedom loss so you know don't take iron

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it's nauseating and it's not what you need we need to fix the gut fix absorption take a full volumic mineral

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for a while that's the way it goes and chew on a rusty nail okay I didn't really say that but well another thing

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consider with the iron is looking at your food sources you know so um a

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really good good herb that can be used for iron is yellow dock another good thing for iron is black strap molasses

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now not the yucky molasses that they have in the store that they just kind of like colorize something but the actual

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actual black strap molasses which is can be a little bit difficult to get uh and

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to look at improving the digestive system in terms of the stomach in terms

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of improving the hydrochloric acid production in the stomach so that you have better absorption of the iron and

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then as Dr Lewis was saying vitamin C also helps with the absorption of iron

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and then um looking at regulating the way in which our

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stress is being dealt with because when you are stressed you're going to compromise your entire digestive system

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and you're going to compromise your body's ability to absorb your nutrients more effectively so those are and also

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you have Swedish bitters which would be good um in terms of helping to improve

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the production of the hydrochloric acid which would not only cut down on the

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viral load but also improve the uptick of your um

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Iron into the body so I'm going to throw it to Dr P we had the question about Epstein bar

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syndrome and not wanting to overactivate the viral load with iron but the person

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has anemia but they wanted to know what are some things to

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consider right um and it's an iron deficiency anemia I heard I understood correct okay

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um yes I I heard some of what Dr Lewis said Thank you and uh we all many of us

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we've all been Expo exposed to epine Bar virus right it's a very common ubiquitous virus in childhood while

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childhood most people have it but then some of us go on that we can't clear it um so some of the uh tools I have is

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number one I agree if the guts not working nothing's going to work um so you have to improve absorption and in

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addition to detoxification one of the things I do is now I'm a homeopath so I use homeopathics but I just won't get

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into that now but I do my favorite homeopathic tool for those of you who are interested is something called

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German biologic medicine also known as homo toxicology or it's also known as bioregulatory medicine and if you want

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to know those protocols I can share them but so but anyway so I use these remedies to kind of reregulate the gut

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and clear the extracellular Matrix and get cells communicating a bit a bit better I do massive dietary changes with

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the with the hope of um improving the microbiome because those microbes produce these the their metabolites

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they're called metabolic response modifiers but they're their what's the products made by microbes literally tell

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the rest of the body what to do in terms of immune function so you want to rebuild the microbes especially those

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that focus on clearing viruses so you have to rebuild a robust microbiome the last thing I do is go after the epine

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bar virus I don't go after a killing until we've got the leaky gut resolved

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we've got um we're building on the microbiome hopefully through fermented diet but I think most people need

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probiotic supplements even though ferments and of course I agree you we're

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talking about the tush please bring in you can do fecal transplants if you have a healthy donor who's a healthy donor uh

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a kid under the age of two who's not been vaccinated that's a healthy donor and who has not gotten the covid vaccine

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now if you can find a kid like that let me know who they are um but that's who you're looking for um so you do you

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regulate the microbiome and then I put the nutrients back um through diet preferably um I prefer plant-based iron

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like florex from Germany um if I'm going to do iron and I I agree with Dr Michelle is using a vitamin C to improve

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absorption of iron but again if the gut's not working you're right Dr Dr Lewis we're just wasting our money

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you're going to poop it all out um or you're going to pee it out if if it's water soluble vitamins when your urine

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turns that weird vitamin color you're just peeing out your money there so I work on that and then I go after the

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Epstein bar virus the tool I use and I'm going to be talking about it you're this

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is good timing on um when am I talking about it I think it's Main 9th or no May

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May 30th actually May 30th I'm talking about Epstein bar virus using the

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series um kits by desbio there're are homeopathic series kits and those are my

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go-to for treating infections so if you're not familiar with them you want to find a practitioner who does um use

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Des bio series kits they're called series symptoms relief kits because in

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Homeopathy we don't cure any disease right we got to be very mind ful of our

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language otherwise the FDA will do that to us um so we assist optimization of

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your health using these series kits and I've had terrific results come on the

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30th and I'll explain how to use it because it takes some practice as a practitioner and patient so that's

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that's a long quick answer is that okay no but that was a that was a brilliant answer um one one second Dr Lewis Dr

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guante welcome welcome from Mexico hello thank you add to add to the Mosaic

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here what would you like to share with regards to either yeah well actually Dr Michelle told

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everything diet is the first thing Our God repair our guts and of course I

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would only work with Homeopathy also to help with the with the gut and with the

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the Iran issue so I don't have anything else to add about it

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so we we're going to put you first up for the next one so the next question we have is pertaining to um General

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achiness and stiffness it's a young woman who is 61 years old and she wants

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to know what are some things that she should be considering and we go we're going to start with Dr

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juante well we have to check what's why is that achess from if it's like from

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arthritis or what so in Homeopathy we have to check every symptom and

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according to that you give a specific remedy to help out with the symptom so I

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think a is like a very very wide area so she would uh have to narrow

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her her symptom so I could help all right Dr

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perro you're muted oh sorry oh overall achiness and stiffness and

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stiff yeah so I agree also uh with Dr juante um achiness is a vague symptom

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and it could be the end of Many metabolic or other uh biologic Pathways meaning it can be the result of

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neurologic issues metabolic issues infectious issues dietary issues sleep

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issues so um so this overall Mala feeling so it requires it's a very it's

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very vague however or it could be mitochondrial for that matter it can be just about anything that causes this

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overall um sense of achiness um but I

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would first start to look if someone is achy I would look at their hydration status lymphatic status I would look at

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um muscular function I would look at their protein intake um and I probably look at my it dep I also get often get a

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gut feeling I would probably look at environmental toxicant so somebody's achy and see what they're being exposed

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to whether it's emfs pesticides Plastics and see why they're not detoxing well

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and look at their detoxification Pathways when I hear stiffness um I start to think about hydration most

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Americans in general here do not drink enough water at least half your body weight and water and um water is a big

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conversation most people are dehydrated right off the bat uh so we got to talk about hydration for if you're stiff but

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if you're also stiff you may not have enough collagen or you're eating too much glyphosate Roundup based um

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herbicides because that glyphosate can swap with your glycine which is in your collagen so collagen is 90% Glycine and

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um people like Dr seni think it's swap I think that's true because glycine is like a um glyphosate The Main Ingredient

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Round Up is like an inet a synthetic amino acid so you want to investig can make sure there's no Roundup I have a

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organic family super organic the kids came back high in glyphosate I said how is this possible um water air you can

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check it you can check it so look I look at that um and I I if people aren't even

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bone broth or they're vegan I do a lot of uh support with collagen I'm a big fan of collagen maybe they need type two

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collagen they're four types collagen my types one and three but I would look at type two collagen if they're if they're

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vegetarian of I would do a plant-based collagen but I do do Bow Vine collagens for um people

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who are meat eaters from grass-fed grassfish uh cows are my source so kind

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of the way how I might think about it Dr

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Lewis yeah those were those are really good answers I think um sometimes stiffness and Joint creaking and all

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that due to like the gluten and dairy intolerance so once again look look at

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God it all it all all stems back from that but I think I think otherwise the answers were were really spoton you know

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I mean I I always look at pain as an energy crisis okay it's an

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energy crisis you have a wound and there's all kinds of energy being expelled at that site to to repair when

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you have a headache that's an energy crisis and a lot of times things like um

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this really famous doctor just sent me this thing on Toxoplasma Gand cat crazy cat lady and a lot of people have

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throbbing headaches and they're positive a Toxoplasma Gand but that's in your brain stealing energy from you so your

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cells in an energy crisis so we got to look at we got to look at some off-the-wall things too like these

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stealth infections that are electron Steelers epine bar is one of them but oral pathogens can lead to pain in the

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jaw but when it escapes and gets into circulation it can cause other things

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not all that man EST in pain but lead to degeneration and the need for more

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repair and recovery and that's when you feel the pain it's an energy crisis so

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you know but you start at the basics what are you eating and how you digesting so you can over you know you can at least uh be on the the upside of

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of managing that energy issue and I'd like to piggyback off the

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after um what Dr Le and Dr P said that a lot of times that I've seen people iing

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that symptom it's dialing back to a food sensitivity sometimes even your night shades like your mushrooms your tomatoes

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and and things of that nature will lead to that like General achiness stiffness in the body so I would I would

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definitely encourage someone to do a a cleanse a cleanout where you're um

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eradicating or should I say eliminating some of your common triggers like the gluten the casine and in this case your

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um night shades and um corn you know those are the more common

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food sensitivity triggers that would lead to that General kind of achiness stiffness in the body something to

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consider and also activating the lymphatic system you know with skin brushing and things of that nature to to

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improve the the detoxification Pathways open them up a little bit more and make

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sure that you're pooping we were talking about um the microbiome before make sure that

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you're actually pooping effectively making sure that you're hydrating properly so that you can clear this

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stuff out of the body and it's not backing up into the inter interstitial areas you know surrounding all of the

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cells and creating G inflammation all right so we

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have another question spec very very specific dialing

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into a zoom this person saw with a cardiologist talking

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niin and the person wants to know what would the starting doses be for a 78-

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year old with apib and CHF and the first thing I'm going to say is that we do not

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um give any kind of specific treatments or anything of that nature I encourage

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people to really dial back into and con contact specific practitioners so that

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you can get specific things because none of us can really give anything specific

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because everyone is different you know and ESP you're dealing with something like niin you really want to be working

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with a practitioner because niin when you start Mega doing can have significant impact on the body and can

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start to really create shifts that uh may or may not be what you're looking

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for but that's my take I'll throw this to the rest of the group

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I'll go last okay Dr per I agree N niin is a major uh B

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vitamin in the brain and of course you have to dose it right um because you'll get flushing niin flush um but it's it's

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a super healthy vitamin um all the B vitamins I I agree it's very individ I

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agree with Dr Michelle Very individually pulsed um so you want to do that in conjunction with somebody so even though

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we pee out the vitamins they're water soluble you can have those shifts that I agree so I would work with someone

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regarding dosing but if you do dose as a guideline you want to start as lead as as low as an edle at 50 milligrams not

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higher than that maybe even 25 a day otherwise do on the 25 y you can get a significant niin flush which is not

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harmful it's just uncomfortable um and you do accommodate nasin as you've been on it for a while you you get and you

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don't get the flush when you can go up in higher doses and for those of you who also have high cholesterol it is an

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anti- um a a cholesterol lowering um uh B vitamin so that might be a benefit for

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some of you as well and that's one of the reasons why I really caution people with regards to nasin to make sure that

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you're being monitored especially with regards to your lipid panels because in my experience those things can dip

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significantly into the other range where it's too low so you really want to make sure that that it's being monitored if

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you start to get up to your mega dosing of say like 2 3,000 a day um yeah just just work with

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someone is what I'm saying Dr Lewis you know when you have something like

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aib I had apib in my 40s and I lived up in New England had I had Lyme disease so

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like before we start worrying about things Downstream from from that we want

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to we want to deal deal with some of those major complaints you have not from the symptomatic perspective but from a

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root cause perspective because you know you you seldom repair when you still have these disease processes

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matriculating your body that was my short answer Dr

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Michelle I I I was I'm like wait a minute I know you were waiting for the

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crescendo that was it

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Dr yeah I agree that the patient needs to go with a specific practitioner or a

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functional medicine doctor so can have the um adequate or the perfect dose

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because yes vitamins are specific for every person it's not like an everybody

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the same dose so we it has to be done specifically and be checked on agre especially when because this

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person is 78 years old and I think as we get older it's like babies you know I

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get really really cautious with people who are older as well as people who are very young because they they tend to

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respond very um significantly to things that other people can buffer you know and so

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I I I I would Tippy Toe but that's just me personally all righty so we had another question um Dr Lewis recommended

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a dental 3D cone beam test what is the benefit of getting this test

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well you know the 3D cone beam there there are areas in your mouth

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particularly if you have a root canal canal but even crowns I'll just give you an example a 2d x-ray that the

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traditional dentist does is very low resolution even a 3day x-ray is not a a

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highly precise instrument and we're looking for subtleties so one of my best testimonials in the oral health is lady

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had slightly elevated white blood cells and a couple things going on with high blood pressure and things like that and

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I had to do a 3D cone beam and the dentist found under a crown okay

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infection and could tell it was impinging on her sinus and her report

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back to me and I saw the I saw the X-ray and I have a expert on my team um Dr

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Patty buuy is a functional periodontist and she said she had no pain in her sinus or her mouth but it

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was so obvious was there but she had a lot of post-nasal drips so that ex the mouth is

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the beginning of your digestive system and the digestive system is the most important system in your body so we

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can't Overlook the mouth and the dental community of today they're doing root canals and they're taking root canals

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out they're they're creating they're creating more harm than good they're giving you Fluor Rod which is proven

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neurotoxin and it's in front of the the CDC has been holding that information back forever watch Del Brig Tre show

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from like a year and a half ago so and mouthwashes traditional mouthwashes they're recommending raise blood blood

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pressure Nathan Bryant the guru on nitric oxide did a study of athletes and other people and showed that consistent

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use of these overthe counter mouthwashes wipe out your microbiome and raise your blood pressure so the mouth has to be

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looked at extremely it it to the best extent that you can um because you know and no no

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one almost no one in the world uses blood test to figure out what's going in the mouth Dr Michelle and I are are like

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two of the few in the world but when you when your white blood when your immune system is acting up a little bit just a

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little bit and you're getting older it's almost always the mouth that's driving that

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process so yeah do your 3D com Brian Dr P I couldn't agree more with

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that um whenever I I am a mouth Checker as well and because every kid in the

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world um has had their wisdom teeth out um and so these when when you have

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extractions they create something potentially called cavitations and those cavitations become little pockets of

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where um um microbes pathologic microbes like to live and each of those areas of

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your teeth where that you've had let's say a w wisdom tooth extraction or you have had a root canal sit on a Meridian

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that goes to a specific organ and the best person I've ever read about that was Dr Louisa Williams who's a

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naturopath now in Texas and um so if you haven't read her B radical medicine I

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still refer to her book she I think it's about 10 years old but it's it's beautiful so you have the only way

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dentist can pick up and you want a biologic dentist can pick these up as with a 3D cone or the digital CAT scan I

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just say go get a digital CAT scan and just get his CAT scan of your oral carine see if you have if especially if

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you have root canals I had a patient I'll tell you a quick case she's one of our employees and she had a um she had

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early stages of inflammatory bow disease and when I took her case it she had a root canal right on the right over the

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small bowel we removed the front tooth and we put her what we call flipper in that's a tooth that you take in and out

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we did not put um a a um an implant and her inflammatory bowel disease went away

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it was remarkable so um this so dental health and also so what you have to know

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because I I am a pediatrician is that the um the fetal microbiome and the

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placental microbiome looks just like Mom's oral microbiome and I'm talking this about this tomorrow on the real

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truth about health absolutely so whatever is happening in mom's mouth is going to happen in the fetus's mouth and

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and the placenta so getting mom's oral cavity lined up you know in the best

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without killing it with some ygy mouthwash is really beneficial awesome Dr juante

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I have no idea what you're talking about no problem no problem not not my

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field so Carla do we have any questions from the

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chat uh yes we do I have a question from

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Linda she it says I've been diagnosed with n Nutcracker syndrome and a

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compressed uh ilc vein compress ressed by the iliac artery by 75% the doctor is

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suggesting stinting the vein the stint is titanium and nickel she did skin

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testing and I did not react to the stint material however I do react to blood test to Nickel the upside of doing this

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is that it could address many of my symptoms that have been plaguing me however I'm concerned about the nickel

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and metal in general in my body she says she has never had anyone react to the vein St with so appreciate your thoughts

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thank you Linda all right Dr Lewis or Dr

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pedo I'm gonna pass on that one well all of a sudden I've started hearing about Nutcracker syndrome in a couple of

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patients which is shocking because I before covid I never heard of no cracker syndrome and so she doesn't have any

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kind of clotting she has a collapsed vein I take it this ilc iliac veins

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collapsing yes and they want to put in a nickel is that what I heard it's nickel

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and titanium I would avoid nickel at all cost I would not put Nickel in the body

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titanium even though titanium yes um if you need to put a stent in now I am no

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expert on stenting but I do know that nickel is highly inflammatory so

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personally I have a titanium screw in my knee I had to get titanium so yes this does happen but if you can avoid the

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nickel I wouldn't use nickel not me because then you get an autoimmune condition then they can't find it and

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you have to get it removed so if they can just work with a titanium product if this is something

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you must do again I I I don't know then I would look for another less toxic

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metal the two things about it is there are no other stent materials except for

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the titanium nickel and once they place it it can't be removed and so I am very

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H because it becomes part of the line of your vein

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and I that's why I asked you about the nickel because I am very concerned about

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nickel but um I wanted other people's opinions that are in the health care

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industry is there a way to avoid the stenting um just live with the symptoms

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for the rest of my life y well there's more question there

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is and I never heard of it before covid right so the question is is there um Endo endothelial vascular damage from

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Spike protein Spike prote affects vessels right so the question is whether you've been spiked you know either

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through the vaccine covid or both and if you've been spiked in whatever format you might have endothelial vasculature

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damage from that and I wonder if you might and if you then you want to look at your Spike protein status whether you

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could look at if that might be your situation whether you can do vascular repair and that's something you might

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want to look at okay Carla any other questions yes I

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have a question from Brenda it says um is there anything you can do for vericose veins I have them and it looks

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like my son age 22 and daughter age 18 may be starting to have

31:53

them all righty who wants to go first Dr I wrote a patent on this and I've never

32:00

filed it but you know when you look at um there was a little French clinician

32:06

and a child was born with Hideous uh Port Wayne port wine stains all over his

32:13

face and in two years using beta blockers they eliminated them so those are sort of ectopic vessels as well so I

32:21

thought about doing transdermal natural beta blockers on those to see if we can

32:27

help but from an internal perspective you know I'd love to see what the arthrite sedimentation rate is on on the

32:34

person and see if it has anything to do with the physiological imbalance in even

32:39

the pH you know the alkalinity of the of the blood but things like you know what the Japanese eat the this uh brown

32:48

seaweed extract called fiden is supposed to have an an astounding effect on the

32:53

capillary bed things like that those are those are some suggestions there are products on the market for varicose

33:00

veins and I'm not really sure they they support the science but I think the beta

33:05

blocker approach and once again there's a whole host of natural ones may be the

33:10

best way to go but you never want to overdose on something that has a mechanism like that because even though

33:16

beta blockers are amazing drugs sort of in helping with various heart disease

33:22

issues um they also have downsides so they're not they're not a wonder

33:28

drug so Dr juante well obviously there's like this

33:36

familiar predisposition so in Homeopathy you can treat to diminish that predisposition or

33:43

if the daughter is already presenting symptoms of course uh she can have the

33:49

remedy so she has Le less varicose veins and with fewer symptoms like pain and

33:56

brush and stuff like that but also they could all use uh hamis in a topic way

34:02

whether it's a cream or a gel and it could help on those and those H veins

34:08

they're not going to disappear but they're going to diminish the symptoms and the the way they

34:16

look Dr per this is another thing that before covid I didn't see young people with ver

34:23

varicosities you just didn't see it and now everyone's got varicosities I see a lot of young people varicoses and I and

34:29

I've heard I just prescribed hemis virginicus what Dr want talk about to somebody with hemorrhoids today for the

34:36

vascular instability so like the previous question I would look for vascular damage from a spike protein

34:41

whatever format a person might may have received it whether the vaccine or the virus or both um and restabilize um the

34:50

vascular Integrity because having a vasculitis or vascular inflammation at such a young age is unusual we did not

34:58

see that in children before covid it was unusual and now I agree with Dr W there

35:04

is a some people have more vascular abnormalities absolutely in families and

35:09

in that case I might do something like once I ruled out Spike protein itis or Spike proteinopathy I might do something

35:16

like hemis regenus 30C use a lower potency because it's physical and then

35:21

um hakana which is a a German biologic medicine has a homeopathic Ram called

35:27

habac and I would bring and it deals with I'm writing in the chat box that remedy from

35:33

pakana that's the name of the company they're from Germany it's German biologic medicine can help family

35:39

dispositions this now a a classical homeopath and I'm also classically trained would say this person probably

35:45

needs a constitutional remedy but a lot of people cannot access constitutional remedies because of finding someone or

35:52

the cost or whatever so this is another way to do it there are many ways to do it so this is into some other

35:59

ideas awesome any other questions Carla yes this question is from Tina Chang I

36:06

was exposed to mold for four years did not have symptoms till the last year

36:12

what do you recommend this is one of Dr Lewis's

36:18

favorite no it's actually Dr Carter is Mr mold I mean um col damine has a lot of

36:25

evidence behind it um other than that you got to

36:31

detox you you got to do a general detox of the gut with with clay with the

36:37

spirulina with Ivy vitamin C maybe hyp

36:42

we had a nice talk on Wednesday evening about the super high atmospheric

36:49

um uh auction Hyperbaric auction at three atmospheres not you know not 1.4 but

36:57

three so these are the kinds of things that might knock that out you know mold's an interesting thing because mold's

37:03

everywhere and we consume mold every day mold is the major component that breaks

37:09

down your vegetables that you know when they start rotting but you know there's mold there's mold in everything so you

37:15

know make sure that stomach acid is I use my boss and accent super

37:23

super super strong okay you know and that's your that's your barrier your nasal your

37:31

lungs your esophageal but your gut it's huge a huge place to have barrier

37:37

immunity at its best you know when when we talk about molds I'm always curious about it in

37:45

terms of the standpoint of whether or not it's because we've had a breakdown

37:51

of the microbiome in most people and the reason why I'm thinking that is because

37:57

mold is not new you know especially when we think about Europe like you know the Dank chap places of England and things

38:05

of that nature they're consumed with mold so why is it

38:13

that now we see more of a quote unquote sensitivity or a reaction to mold and what I'm thinking and you guys can let

38:19

me know if if I'm in a wrong track I'm thinking is because we've had a breakdown of the intestinal integrity

38:28

in the majority of people and so we become more sensitive to it because we don't have the good guys in there to

38:35

bring bance what are your thoughts I mean we're we're just unhealthier than we ever were compared to other

38:41

Generations I mean there's a I had a guy on my webinar series I read his book Paul Clayton he wrote about the mid

38:48

Victorian diets how the mid Victorian lived ate and and uh and died and they

38:54

outlived Brit's uh Mis misinformation about longevity I mean 0 to6 in 1840 in

39:01

the United States 42% of children didn't make it to AG six so if you bake them into a a longevity projection then it

39:10

looks like we only live to 45 the mid victorians lived longer once you made it

39:17

past age six compared to Brits today who make it past age six then Brits today

39:22

with all the super duper Healthcare they raised their own chickens they had their

39:27

own garden they did physical labor they were outside you know so we're just much

39:33

much more vulnerable to these things that like Dr Michelle you may you pointed it out to me why are these

39:38

things there they're there the same reason they're in lettuce so when we die we they break us down and decompose us

39:44

we're not supposed to go to the Undertaker but our immune system is like at half staff and so we're half

39:51

dead pretty pretty gory but that's the I think well also because we live in a

39:57

bubble you know I compare you know people who are in the City versus those of us in the country and I'm completely

40:04

surrounded by chicken poop and goat poop and and all the other stuff that they keep on warning you about but it's fine

40:11

the same thing with my dog she's exposed at everything out there she goes out and

40:16

eats deer poop you know and she is like the most healthy dog I've ever seen so

40:23

I'm I'm wondering if the other part of it is that we become so en capsulated in these bubbles where we're not

40:30

challenging the immune system and so as soon as a little thing goes Whispers on

40:35

us we get overreactive because we're not used to having that robust kind of um

40:41

immune response you know the number one disease that triggers that confirms that

40:46

and I'm sure Dr perro is very familiar with that is pandas it's it's the hygiene hypothesis on on steroids

40:57

any thoughts Dr I'm sorry I also think that uh also they have made us believe

41:04

that we are weak that we are weak humans and that our immune system doesn't work

41:10

so it's like the the industry and the the they want us to believe that that we

41:16

need their medicines we need their vaccines because we are so weak that any virus any mold any bacteria anything

41:24

that is flying around here it's going to make me sick so so we have to also turn

41:29

around our beliefs and see that we're great that God made us with a great body

41:36

with organs with functions with everything and we can deal with all the stuff that is surrounding us we're not

41:43

weak but they're selling us the the story that we have to do uh or we have

41:49

to buy and take some um chemicals in order to survive in the world

41:58

Dr P you know I would I would add in MO of course um getting back to the mle

42:04

question you know Dr Michelle I agree with you I I I think that of all the

42:09

people I see mostly kids 90% of them have intestinal permeability and people did not have intestinal permability

42:15

before and what we did that that introduced was 1996 to 1998 we we

42:20

created GMOs and their Associated pesticides so our diets radically changed in 1996 to 1998

42:28

what also changed was this um The Barrage of ultra processed foods which have rocked our microbiome so we're

42:34

supposed to have fungi um a type of mold in our in our gut we do that we have we have ARA we have protozoa we have

42:41

bacteria virus we have fungi but we we now I believe because of what you say we have an imbalanced disbiosis of a

42:48

microbiome and because we have this intestinal permeability and the microbes are no longer we have a a we do have um

42:56

a biof FM that overlays our intestinal barrier normal bofilm not all biofilms are bad and they're made of microbes and

43:03

because of glyphosate so ubiquitous it's an antibiotic and everything else not just you know Ultra processed foods ATT

43:09

chorine chlorine in the water it kills the microbiome a multif fires and Foods kill the microbiome so now we have

43:16

intestinal permeability and everything is leaking cross and causing systemic inflammation but in that mold for the

43:22

mold individual if you don't lower your exposure rate you're not going to get better anyway so so it has to be a

43:28

reduction in the althetic load of whatever toxicants you're dealing with whether it's mold air pollution in

43:33

pesticides parabens whatever while you in you have to kind of re re uh

43:39

reformulate those zulin little warrior barriers in your intestinal lining so

43:45

you have to rebuild your intestinal lining and there's so many ways to do it homeopathically herbally neutraceutical

43:52

energetically prayer however you do it there are multiple ways of rebuilding

43:58

your gut and I agree if people keep telling us we're sick we will be sick that's the mindset so what we have to do

44:04

is reclaim our health and say our bodies have the inherent ability once we remove the toxic aspects of it to heal itself

44:12

but you need guidance and that's why you're all here tonight thank you Dr Michelle um to help you guys do it

44:17

because it's not easy if it was easy everybody would have done it already it's not easy so we have to kind of find

44:23

the way that best suits you this is individualized every everybody not everyone responds the same way so that's

44:29

why it's best to work with a holistic practition of some kind a naturopath a homeopath or um whatever an osteopath

44:37

whatever whatever you feel um is best suited for you as an

44:42

individual and that leads me to remind everyone that you can always feel free to follow up with any of us that are

44:49

here by going to the page it takes a village Ministry going to our doctors are in page and you'll see the contact

44:57

information I have to add Dr Pedro's information if you need to get in talk

45:02

in touch with Dr perro you can reach out to me and I'll definitely get her get you in touch with her I see we have a

45:08

question from Linda actually I'm just a lay person but I want to add something

45:13

about mold because I was deathly ill from mold for four years before I knew

45:18

what was making me sick and I started going insane I thought I was going to

45:23

head end up in an insane asylum and I wonder if people especially in the

45:30

past that have gone we've considered gone crazy right if it's been a mold

45:37

exposure just that's sometimes it was yeah I mean that's just a thought that had because the road I was going

45:44

down I'm sorry sometimes yeah anyway yeah it has been shown that sometimes it

45:51

was related yeah um Carla any other questions yes we have a question from

45:57

Jim he um asked if you have a root canal what do you do I had my wisdom teeth cut

46:03

out at 14 before getting braces thanks

46:09

Jim I can answer that one get your root canal removed if it's causing problems

46:15

if you just have one or two and it's not causing problems and you're healthy your body might be able to manage it back in

46:22

the day I used to have parents and people take them out but then over time time it some of some of us um can handle

46:30

them one or two perhaps but if you find that it you're sick um and your your

46:36

health is being compromised then you might want to remove it I don't like implants I'm probably one of the few people in the world who doesn't like

46:42

them um and I would they're call uh flippers you can get a removal plastic

46:48

tooth not ideal um but I I personally in my opinion um prefer them better um than

46:56

in plants but everybody's different so it just depends on your health uh kind

47:02

of a broad question broad answer sorry well this is also where that cone beam would come in um handy also to make sure

47:10

that you get a cone beam scan done to see if there's any citation because

47:15

sometimes you may not think that you're not Health you may think that you're healthy but there's stuff happening

47:21

underneath the scenes that you may not even be aware of Dr Lewis you know

47:27

putting in a root canal and taking out a root canal is an expensive proposition and so I don't recommend

47:33

everybody take it out either I think the reason why they do implants is it it stimulates sustained bone growth but you

47:40

know I'm I'm I wouldn't be a big fan of them either if there are other options not a great option but the thing is with

47:46

root canals and I completely agree with Dr pero is that over time your immune

47:52

system weakens and there the opportunistic infection that can be carbon in that place gets worse that's

47:58

why you do blood testing looking for elevated white blood cell counts I've shown that you can tell if you have oral

48:05

pathogens in circulation by looking at the lime line blot it's not always going to be a perfect test but if it lights up

48:12

and you have root canals there a very good chance that's the source and the other thing you can do fair inexpensively is a Swish and garle test

48:18

called the oral DNA and that measures for 11 different types of pathogens not

48:26

what we call the usual ual suspects are way more than 11 it also quantifies them we call them The Usual Suspects so

48:33

usually if you see these up it's indicative that there there's an issue and then you know then you have a guide

48:39

guidance to um look at the effect now I use a chlorine dioxide solution once a

48:45

week um being sensitive to the fact that you have an oral microbiome but the

48:50

reason why we use chlorine dioxide is a gas can penetrate more deeply than a

48:55

liquid or a solid so you have a better chance of getting below the gum line then of course I like the water flosser

49:02

you know it's like a washing your deck with a pressure wash it's going to get cleaner with some povidone iodine in

49:07

there my rule of thumb would be an ounce of 10% overthe counter povidone iodine in your in your Reservoir and do that

49:15

once or twice a week too once again I don't want to bombard the oral cavity

49:22

with all kinds of anti-infective oxidizing agents I had someone tonight

49:27

you know using mouthwash with peroxide it's likey every day and not what you want to

49:35

do you know I learned this from nurses I asked I had nurses hire me I said you

49:40

have what what's your opinion on peroxide for wound he said it's great to prevent the infection one time but if

49:46

you keep using it never heals Dr guante is there something some

49:52

a homeopathic approach to mold to mold

49:57

uh yeah of course there's uh things that uh there are remedies to detox but I

50:03

would also look some other things like H bentonite clay like turmeric ginger like

50:12

sweating in a SAA or here in Mexico we have the mascal that's a little place

50:18

little cabin that you get in and there you sweat so sweating is also good for mold treatment

50:27

Carla any other questions yes I believe we have like two or three more okay so this is from fer bural sorry if I

50:33

mispronounced your name long covid is now such a common Affliction what is long covid how can one treat long

50:41

covid thank you for okay we're going to um kind of dance around that because we

50:47

want to make sure we have this recording stay on YouTube so just

50:52

to uh you know what I'm saying okay

50:58

go for it anyone you know the best thing to do is go to the flccc and what McCulla

51:05

recommends and things like that they have extensive things you know we've run Spike protein test and you know you do I

51:13

have people that say oh you do the IV glut glutathione the uh vitamin C and

51:19

all that and it's bringing bringing the spike antibody down 10% then they go someplace where there's a shedding and

51:24

it goes back up up again you know I think the best thing you can do is you're not necessarily going to have a

51:30

treatment for the spike protein we've seen some interesting results with methylene blue in not taken in liquid

51:37

liquid IV with strong um visible light activation of it

51:43

to create this reactive oxin species so but then just a report on

51:49

spirulina to um save people from high mortality rates that are in hospital so

51:55

there's a bunch of Natural Things there's so many different things there's no real protocol and I'm glad we don't

52:01

want a standard of care we still need doctors being creative at trying different things because we're in the in

52:07

the infancy of this right now but you know I published on my blog or maybe it's coming out tomorrow that Mulla

52:14

showed just another series of of pretty good uh controlled trials on nines and

52:20

so I don't I don't think any of these things are Miracles and they're certainly not knocking the spike down

52:26

they're probably just protecting the vasculature because I I haven't seen a lot of things that bring the spike down

52:32

dramatically there's a guy at the fccc I'll close on this by the name of marsin and he's probably done more Spike

52:39

antibody testing than anybody in the world and looked at different interventions and I have a member of my

52:45

team that follows him closely I don't I don't have an update on it because I'm not really interested in the stupid Spike I'm interested in you being

52:51

healthy and that's the number one thing that'll keep you from dying from the spike

52:56

and I'd like to piggyback off of that Dr Lewis that you know when I work with people in that situation I look at it

53:03

from a foundational perspective because I say to us everyone is not succumbing

53:10

to quote unquote long covid so the question becomes what made you more

53:15

susceptible what was were the weak links that need to be addressed to help the

53:21

overall body to strengthen to be able to rebound more effectively and

53:26

that requires a much more personalized conversation because everyone has different weak links but we always have

53:33

the foundations in terms of you know were you sleeping properly were you

53:39

stressed out were you drinking properly were you eating good foods were you doing GMO Foods you were you were you're

53:45

doing um all of these various exposures to in environmental toxins all of these

53:52

things need to be looked at and not simply look at the boogy man being the spike protein but rather you had a life

54:00

before the shot or before Co what was it that made you more susceptible to the

54:06

now the manifestation of quote unquote long Co Dr P um yes being a strategic here and

54:15

preserving our life on various platforms let me just say um not what I

54:21

might have said and I'll maybe I'll type that but what I will say is that those with long but I agree with Dr Michelle

54:28

um could have lime and Co infections and when I it could be bellia could be Bia could be Bella could be EBV it could be

54:34

all of them herbe C CMV and they get activated because so many people are underdiagnosed with Lyme and co-

54:40

infections so that's one thing I will also type the fact I won't say it but

54:48

um I just put this in the chat for those of you um you know just for sake of um I

54:57

I do think that must be addressed um I don't look at anything now without a um

55:03

a covid Sheen has tempered on how I look at people I'm I'm a microscopist I do

55:09

live blood analysis so blood has changed and how live blood looks has changed

55:14

people have changed I don't need live blood to know this by the way I usually talk to a person and People's Health

55:19

have have deteriorated and and and look at some of the things that have happened in the past few years and not just the

55:25

spop but we know isolation and the other various factors etc etc we don't need to go into all that I know the time is

55:31

running out but um so I would say um I like a multi-pronged approach and um I

55:38

bind up Spike I get rid of Peg polyethylene glycol and

55:43

lipopolysaccharides I try to diminish any additional um adant or surprises and

55:50

I'm going to type it in the chat um just to be uh strategic um here and be um mindful um

55:59

and um any other aspects of that that we need to address so we address everything that someone may have been exposed to

56:05

that might be creating long sea yeah all I can say about the spike

56:12

is Jim says is shedding real I don't have a lot of data on this but I have a

56:18

couple people that so the the lab coure test 08 or below is is not um non you

56:26

know it's negative okay but people had very clear correlation between people

56:32

had Omicron Delta it's going up Omicron they're kind of in double digits Delta

56:37

they're in in triple digits and then depending on the number of Jabs they're over 10,000 I had people greater than

56:43

25,000 they're still alive and functioning like nothing ever happened but I had a few people that were in the

56:49

hundreds and they claimed to have gone to different conventions and there was a lot of people in close contact this one

56:55

guy very health conscious I mean Super completely trusts that she comports

57:00

herself like someone in the functional world and her hers went from

57:06

225 over four months to 6,000 so I mean how reliable as a test

57:13

and I don't have enough data to say I see that all the time but so I think shedding is real based on a couple

57:21

couple example tests that I've run Dr juante

57:27

well I think I'm grateful that there are no protocols to treat this because in

57:33

Homeopathy we see every patient like a particular person so we see all the

57:38

symptoms the specific symptoms and we treat them that like that we don't treat a syndrome but we treat the person with

57:45

the physical symptoms the mental symptoms so holistically we treat the

57:52

person and so I think we have one more question Carla yeah we we do uh this is

57:57

from Evelyn Reed um she said I would be grateful if you could answer this um my

58:03

NL ratio hopefully I'm saying this right is too high my H sorry my LM ym ho o

58:12

laho sites sorry Lites yeah lymp Lites thank you are far to thank you Dr leis I

58:19

pread the thing thank you what can I do to improve the ratio please what can I

58:25

take what might be the reason and are there any tests which might point to the

58:31

reason why and also just to add docs I copied and Pace there was um some of the people that ask questions they also um

58:39

have additional questions so what I'll do is I'll email you those questions okay and maybe we'll address them next

58:45

month Okay who wants to jump into the lymphocytes well I I probably published

58:51

more on nutrifil the up with bacteria lymphocytes can out

58:57

with viruses not always okay and I just wrote a whole article on on lymphocytes

59:03

but when your nlr is bad that's a really that's not a good thing it's your infectious burden and usually when the

59:08

lymphocytes are low it's viral epine bar HSV cytomegalo virus got to treat that

59:13

you know and I talked at the very beginning about the icin hydroxy chloroquin Brownstein protocol

59:19

immunoglobins there's a number of different things you can do to treat viruses but you know the best thing to

59:25

do is get get a viral panel run so we can see what organisms they are so at least we have a

59:31

a gauge of how effective treatment is because you know these treatments aren't perfect and my own daughter had like

59:36

super chronic fatigue she'd go away for a week come back home and stay in her bed for three days and her EBV IGG which

59:44

most doctors would say was historic it had monog go away came down dramatically on treatment and her energy went the

59:51

exact opposite direction so these antibodies that are Pres presume to be just a

59:58

indication of past infection or absolutely not these things can morph into very stealth phases the best work

1:00:05

done on this is Dr Charles Stratton out of Vanderbilt that looked at Cham Ammon claman ammonia and characterized at

1:00:12

least three different phases of that organism and in one phase it's refract refractory antibiotics and refractory

1:00:19

the immune system this this organism travel to the to the brain inside a

1:00:24

nutrifil the white blood cell should be killing it okay so we're fighting the Taliban here in internally So It's

1:00:32

Tricky sneaky business so but you can test for them and you can treat and show

1:00:37

that they go down and usually the patient feels a lot better that's the that's the ultimate thing we're trying

1:00:42

to achieve anyway Dr po I would totally agree with

1:00:48

that um and you also you might want to do a St microbiome test and look to see what your microbiome is doing because

1:00:55

Bal bacteria um one of the key um produ um organism that produce short chain fatty acids as

1:01:01

well as assist with te- cell function um might might help the other thing you

1:01:07

might want to consider um so increasing your beneficial bacteria make sure they're not so low and if you don't want

1:01:13

to do the microbiome test just take a probiotic in addition to eating fermented foods just take a probiotic

1:01:19

that has um increase of bifido strains bifo bacteria and lactobacilli strains

1:01:24

um at least like bifo bacteria breathes infantis lactus lactobacillus rosis

1:01:31

rudari lactobacilus acidophilus so you want at least five to 25 billion

1:01:36

colonies of bifone like the basill if you're not going to get it checked because you have to work with somebody

1:01:41

cost money um but in additionally there is a homeopathic that I like it's called thuline 9 9C I'll write in the chat um

1:01:50

and it stimulates the thus and the dius as you know is an organ that most adults

1:01:56

have it's been regressed it's an organ that sits behind the sternum babies have a very robust thymus we and that creates

1:02:03

something they call a Nate immunity so if I when I hear lymphocytes Al low I just try sometimes I give some thy

1:02:09

thuline 9C um I might give one dose daily and see if I can boost up their

1:02:15

lymy counts with some of these other measures as we search for the root cause and figure out why your lymphocytes are

1:02:21

so low I love that answer that really added to my uh repertoire thank you Dr

1:02:29

Michelle this one might be really good oh sorry wait a well additional to what

1:02:36

Dr Michelle said um also and the energetic medicine you can stimulate

1:02:41

your thus but by tapping it so tapping a couple of minutes or five minutes a day

1:02:47

it's a an easier way to stimulate your your thymus and your

1:02:56

amazing awesome so you had one more Carla my gosh there's so many great

1:03:03

questions but um I'm going I know it's the rainy season so I'm trying to ask

1:03:09

this one uh Frank soga and um he says that so many homes

1:03:16

have been affected by flooding of the basements in first floor how can these homes ever be mold

1:03:24

free well can jump in there because I have a lot of friends who live in moldy houses that have been flooded I have a

1:03:29

lot of friends from New Orleans you can get a dehumidifier and put in your basement once you might have to do mold

1:03:36

remediation um you might and I know people have had to lift their houses how crazy is that if you own your house how

1:03:42

I mean to way you're talking about lots of money and and creating flow underneath the house in some like wet

1:03:49

areas they they live up on stilts like you they elevate their houses but in the meantime you can get a dehumidifier and

1:03:56

it take the humid you got to take the I every worldy home should get a dehumidifier and and um a HEPA filter so

1:04:04

and you certainly don't want to sleep in that moldy area it's difficult um Frank

1:04:09

to to to remediate it when you're in a flood zone it's not it's not easy what are your thoughts on using an

1:04:19

ozonator ozonators can kill mold that is true we use them in swimming pools we use them in in in hot tubs um you can I

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I just wonder I have a little personal ozonator I'm going to show it to you I I used to put in the clinic dur in covid

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seeing patients it produces little ozone I would Breathe It Right In I plug it into my computer just so you know I

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travel with it also on the airplane I'm like giving myself ozone um I'd say it's a good thought but I don't have any stat

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I don't have any data I like it though I like the idea I I have a one that's about a foot square and what I do is

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when I'm in a in the uh humid season I'll just put it in the basement from

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room to room and let it just run you know with the

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dehumidifier the dehumidifier is number one you got to put the two you have to do the two together and then you get you

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know your uh your your paint to you got to coat over that stuff because you'll

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never get it out so you paint stuff and try to put barrier as much as you can

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another thing that you may want to consider is um using essential oils like um tea tree and oregano and

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things to diffuse those in the room as well as the dehumidifier and the

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ozonator um but it you know mole can be a a Bugaboo so it's like a never-ending

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battle if you have one of those situations unless you do like Dr Pedro says and lift your house up on stilt or

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something but we'll all come down and help you out well in any case ladies and gents thank

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you so very very much I want to say thank you special thank you to all our

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Wonder doctors Dr Lewis Dr perro Dr juante it has been phenomenal and we

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look forward to being able to serve you next month same that channel same that time on the third Thursday of the month

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until then peace and blessings thank you bye bye byebye bye














 

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